My current .308 bolt gun is a 13 pound target rifle. Gun Review: Springfield Armory Ronin EMP 3 9mm 1911, Gun Review: Henry U.S. Beginners can buy one of these and do the range time they need to gain some measure of proficiency while shooting out the factory barrel. Its obvious that the bbls dont totally suck or they wouldnt shoot as good as they did with factory fodder. Web.308 Win with 1:10 RH twist, 20 in (51 cm) barrel, weighing 9.8 lb (4.4 kg) [3] 6mm Creedmoor with a 1:7.7 RH twist, 24 in (61 cm) barrel, weighing 10.8 lb (4.9 kg) [4] (Believe me, I know I am spoiled). Having said that, there is a lot of appeal to the new Ruger, including the overall modularity plus the adjustability of the stock. (42) Ruger American Ranch 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Bolt Action Rifle. Curious how that works out. Review: Ruger Precision Rifle | An Official Journal Of The NRA Many of Ms. Weiss shots have been made off-hand with her Anschuetz .22LR rifle. Ruger's Precision Rifle Has Shattered The Myth About Where this lack of weight manifests itself quite clearly is in the recoil department. God speed and happy shooting SIr. That guy did more for barrel length arguments than anyone ever. The truck was a quarter mile walk, so one of us dug a couple of boxes of Czech 7.62 ball (144 gr) ammo out of a pack. The Swedish Mausers have unfortunately gone up in price, and they are not accurized, but some do surprisingly very well in military stocks. Send it back and ask the manufacturer if theyve lost their minds. Oh, BTW, my first time reading TTAG, I like it. A magnification range of 4-12 / 16x or 6-24x is ideal for long-range shooting, A cubicle-dwelling technology sales professional by day, he is an avid starter of projects, purchaser of speciality tools, and aspiring chef outside the office. After a short while it was like you said, what recoil? Nuff said! Ive done more OCW tests than I can recall and never came close to 1MOA consistently. Add to Compare. This is not a surprise since the R700 is contoured and the RPR has the flat AR fore end. Notify Me When Available. Overall Length: 39.25"-42.75". I ran the gun hard and didnt give it optimal conditions in which to perform because I wanted to see a worst case scenario. Box 303 Curious about bore diameter relating to weight and such, I pounded a French-press worth of coffee, and dusted off some underused math skills, and found that the change in bore diameter didnt matter one bit. I elected to have Ruger send me their RPR in .308 Winchester and its not only a popular hunting round, but also the most popular military sniper round, as well. Couple threads over at snipers hide where they did just that. At 100 yards, no. Ive tried various weights and loads, factory and handloads. Its a good thing Bumblebees dont know they cant fly. MAG291-BLK An entry-level tactical bolt rifle at a decent price point, DBM, and receiver rail. I recall that some posters had custom heavy barrels installed and found .5 MOA or better. I didnt perform a barrel break in of any type, I never cleaned it, and I got it glove-melting hot. Very well said. I find the criticisms about length and weight to be odd, as well as the dismissal of the velocity loss that a shorter barrel brings. I would love to see that ar 10 get that kind of accuracy I would never believe it I would have to see it Be there you know what I mean! Another a savage trophy hunter in 308, scoped with a Nikon 39. I am not a comp shooter just a guy learning how to shoot But everyone at the range was impressed I was impressed thats the best I have ever shot. Its awesome they use standard mags but they are too short to handloads the bullets to an O.A.L. Otherwise, thanks for taking the time to do two write-ups showing that a similar product in a similar box isnt necessarily similar in the important aspects. while the .308 measured 9.886 lbs. The .308 comes up quicker and allows you to move and work off barriers and obstacles much more easily. Ruger Precision Rifle Bolt-Action Rifle Model 18028 Have a look over at http://www.rifleshooter.com they have done velocity vs barrel length for 223/556, 308, and 300winmag I believe. Submitted at 03:40 hours today a,n article that compares the .30-06 to the 6.5 Creedmoor, vindicating the old school. Im guessing the exterior dimensions of the barrels are the same, making the .308 a thinner barrel. But how can you beat it at that price point a question I have been asked by a number of fellow shooters in my area and how can you improve on it. Given that, its just bullet weight, powder charge and COL to tune a load for max accuracy. Ive read a lot of 6.5 and .308 reviews, any comments on the .243 version of this rifle? A sniper rifle is a rifle used by a sniper it is not a specific type or caliber. shooter. However, the SST might be more reliable. Is there anything inherent with .308 that makes it more difficult to lay down tight groups? I know most people around here are not fans of dead tree rags but I dont think they lied about the results. Oh, and theres accuracy, but more on that later. WRT the RPRs rattling safety selector, Ruger now has a free fix for it a spring that takes about a minute to install and solves the problem. The proof is cut and wrapped up in my freezer. $1,039.00 $989.99. I did have some groups well over an inch but that was me pulling a shot not the gun, and certainly not the ammo. An RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor (review here) and one in .308 WIN . Youll see the old school vindicated. POOR service in anyones opinion. Lets hope so I dont know anyone who wants to take another persons life for no good reason. Ruger Precision Its a 2+ MOA rifle. So far, so good. I own both rifles. Features QD sling-attachment points, a bottom Picatinny rail (for monopods) and soft rubber buttpad, Bolt: Three-lug bolt with 70 throw and dual cocking cams, Finish: Type III Black Hard-Coat Anodized, Barrel: Medium contour, Cold-hammer forged from 4140 chrome-moly steel, 5R rifling. I gave the 6.5 a four-star rating that was much more like a 4.8. Its still a dog with fleas and Im only keeping it because I plan on buying an after market barrel and converting it to 6.5CM. Ill have to run a comparison test myself, with Federal Gold 168, NATO 147 gr 7.62 & some Atomic match. However, this rifle was designed mainly for high-powered rifle competition shooting, plain and simple. The Swedish Mauser tend to be accurate when they should not be, yet each one is different. The barrel wear should not be as much of concern within 500 yard ranges as you only need 1.5 MOA, or so, to be accurate enough. I use 45.0 gr. After barrel breakin, it is a consistent half inch gun out to 800 yards. Brand: Ruger. But the big deal with .260 Remington is that is uses necked down .308 cases. Ive owned more than a few bolt-action hunting rifles, in various calibers, that could keep my three round groups right at an inch at 100 yards. As far as the loose safety lever, Swap it for an ambidextrous from CMMG and its not an issue any more. Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. The next email was to the rest of the crew at TTAG to say, Back off! Only for men. I just picked one up used in 308 for $1000 as an impulse buy even though I was impatiently waiting for one in 6.5. There are lots of people, many of them my friends, who are DEEPLY invested in .308. WebRuger Marksman Adjustable trigger is externally adjustable with a pull weight range of 2.25 to 5.0 lbs. And because it is a box fed semi-auto in AR guise, it could be brutally efficient in the field. Please support this website by adding us to your whitelist in your ad blocker. Since theyre the same gun (functionally) from the chamber backwards, this weight savings came from everything forward of the magwell. The good news is that the Ruger Precision Rifle only retails for $1,500. But if youre looking for a gun that maneuvers well in a truck or perches easily on barriers, there are better options than a long range competition rifle. Getting good hits became routine.and we ran out of 168s. If carrying a 15 pound rifle to the range is not an issue it would make sense to have a 26 barrel. He is also a retreat consultant specializing in off-grid living, rural relocation, and survival preparedness. It might be the Swedish steel, or because the bullet as a long bearing surface. It is plenty for those ranges, and it will be flatter as a result. The first thing I do is to remove the factory supplied muzzle breaks and install an A2 type flash hider.not nearly the muzzle blast. Review: Ruger American Predator .308 All offer ambidextrous manual safeties and are a great option for an affordable long-range rifle. Send it my way Tom. This new Ruger precision rifle has my name all over it. A lot has to do with the ammunition, and all guns have their druthers some shoot great with green/yellow box hunting ammo, and some dont. Precision I think a bolt gun shouldnt look like an AR clone, but that is just me. One day, my friend and I were shooting our Remington M700 Varminter Synthetic .308s with 168 grain match loads out to about 700m. They are OK up at 800 yds. Here, Im almost to a point of demanding you turn in your Man Card. I recently traded in my Ruger RPR .308 because of the excess weight and lack of accuracy (ie) 3/4MOA was the best I could get with Federal Gold Match) , for Rugers Magpul Hunter. WebRuger Precision Rifle .308 Win Gen.3 - Jetzt mitbieten bzw. Between dies, powder, bullets, and pallets of cheap(ish) NATO ammo, the rifle they buy is going to be a .308. But if youve got an .06, dont loose it, cause youve got more gun. It could have easily been the opposite with the .308 the more accurate one. Federal Gold Metal shoots 5-shot 0.6 MOA groups all day long. I dont know why this one isnt a lights-out shooter like the 6.5. That is impressive. To save you the humiliation of asking a girl how much rifle shes hefting while she out-shoots you, Ill give you the answer: Same as my Annie over 10 pounds. I love the Black Hills .300 Win Mag load, and I managed to duplicate their accuracy, but I just couldnt exceed it no matter how hard I tried, and the same goes for the .308 Winchester caliber I could match Black Hills in the accuracy department, but never beat them. Uh, the Czech ammo hit the plate over and over again using the same come-up data. Thats surprising as .308 has a reputation as being an inherently accurate, consistent cartridge. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. Please let others know they too can trust SurvivalBlog for the most reliable and practical survival information by voting for SurvivalBlog on topprepperwebsites.com. Keep in mind that I have attended a precision rifle match once in my life. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. JWR is a journalist, technical writer, and novelist. Tunnel Rabbit, Ive always wanted a 6.555 Swede because it looked so efficient. You cant really get 6.5 in bulk. No adjustments were made to optics. Also includes: two, 10-round Magpul PMAG magazines. l Lets take a Rem 700 AAC-SD like the one that Nick tested awhile back. I will admit, I cant shoot that well all the time. With that kind of accuracy, that is not that much money. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. Surprised I didnt get any flyers. I see them in classes all the time, and they blind instructors and students alike during night shoots. Im glad I bought it! , Have the RPR in 6.5 Creedmoormost 3-shot groups have been all shots cutting one anothermuzzle blast and noise are brutal because of the muzzle brake i wear ear plugs and muffs. He loves that gun and it shoots regular 1 MOA groups he says. The best five-shot group was a touch under .6 MOA. I already have a great 155 grain load for my AR. The Ruger preferred the 168-gr Match Hollow Point load over the 175-gr Match Hollow Point load not by much, but it was enough to make a difference in the small groups. So I would have rather have had a proprietary magazine that allowed hand loading to a proper overall length. A precision rifle needs to shoot sub MOA, period, and not just some of the time. A Savage 10TR (may be only a Canadian offereing) These come from the factory with a threaded, heavy barrel in either 20 or 24. The rifle was very solid (save the safety), smooth and very comfortable to shoot ergonomically even with the too low rings. I have been reading and watching on youtube all the reviews I can find about this rifle in 308 this the first one I have found that has anything negative to say about the accuracy of this rifle ! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. If you wish to lap out rough spots in a barrel after it has been cut and chambered, theres really only one way to do it that thats fire-lapping. I believe that I got lucky with my first 6.5 RPR, a gen 1. The wind conditions on the day I tested the .308 were slightly higher (~5 mph) than the day I tested the 6.5 so Im willing to spot the .308 a little cushion. Would be like a Corvette vs. a riced out Honda Civic. Barrels should stay good for 10,000 plus rounds, and be might #3 bores at 15,000 rounds. ; wrench is stored in the bolt shroud. Interesting, does your model 10 have the 5R bbl. OK, I need to get up on my hind legs here and issue forth a rant. He has been writing for The Truth About Guns for four years and specializes in hunting, the outdoors, gun, and gear reviews. I am an average shooter and I have never shot worse than .75 with the 6.5 RPR. We have a gun that holds 10 rounds in the removable magazine. LRP-07, KAC SR25, LaRue OBR, Les Baer Further than that the higher BC of the 6.5 gives it more velocity, flatter trajectory, lower TOF, and less drift. Where the magnums are way ahead. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer I dont want to distract from my harrumphing here to detail why you cannot hand-lap a barrel thats already chambered and fit to length, but I shall if people are really curious. Brand: Ruger. Neither is it brush rifle or a truck gun. I have a RPR in 308 Win and its accuracy amazes me everytime I shoot it. But the fact is that nobody in the top 10 of the Precision Rifle Series used a hinged floorplate to feed their rifle, and none of them ran stock bolt knobs, or factory stocks. THe Ruger Precision Rifle, Purpose Built to Distance Itself from the Typical Long-Range Rifle. WebSavage Model 10 BA Stealth 308 Win Bolt Action Rifle with Adjustable Stock (Left Handed Model) $1,207.00 $959.88. If you are looking for a good 308 rifle for long-range shooting, there are many great options to choose from. Some of the best bolt-action rifles include the Remington 700, Tikka T3x TAC A1, and Ruger Precision Rifle. I found the RPR stayed in the gun safe, while the Magpul Hunter actually gets put to use. Hats off to ruger. Consequently, I have ordered a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel from Snipe Arms. Not all sniping is done at 1,000-yards, some is done as close as 100-yards, and even the lowly .22 LR rifle, can accomplish the task of being a sniper rifle, with just a 4X scope on it think about it. But from what I can tell, the authors ~0.9 MOA seems to be fairly consistent among reviewers. If it can fill next year's elk tags and provide entertainment out to 500-800yrds(which in 60+ years I've never done) I'll be content. Ok, but would you expect that F-class Savage to be as light and handy as your tactical carbine or truck gun? BTW, both of mine are sub MOA with commercial match 168 gr. So lets drop it in a Chassis so that it becomes a Wonder Rifle Again, a Canadian Company, MDT offers chassis from that $400 range up to about $1000 depending on the features you want. I thoroughly enjoyed your review and agree. Been shooting for more than 40 years and never heard of such a thing. They make them for the RPR. This rifle can be competitive with $3K-$7K rifles with a custom barrel & more rigid handguard for less than $1K more. Getting a scope thats able to match your rifles shooting ability is your key to success. seems they are Hornady 150 grain SP Savage has certainly found a home in that market, and theres no reason Ruger cant cash in on it as well. With the same brake, and a bit more weight, shooting a lighter recoiling cartridge, the 6.5 is still the pussycat of the two. $803.99 $729.99. Its scoped & ready to go but having a 4 month old has kept me at bay for now. If you love to wear polyester fabric jackets? I suggest you buy a Bob-sled from Brownells & fire singles, or stop using olives in your RPR. and Smithing. I borrowed a hi-end scope to mount on the Ruger Precision Rifle, because I wanted to squeeze all the accuracy out of this gun as I possibly could. I forgot to say that I used 7.62 ammo. I treated the .308 the same way, but I fed it a lot more variety in ammo, and it just never consistently performed for me. It might be better to get a good to go Creedmoor, yet a .30-06 can duplicate Creedmoor performance ballistically using 200 grain bullets, but it will have 20 to 22 pounds of felt recoil, instead of 12 to 14 pounds for the Creedmoor. When I finish moving back to North Carolina from California, its getting surpassed. What ever happened to Josh Wayner? Its just not a 1000 yrd. .75 groups at 200 yards on a regular basis. Just about every rifle I know of that guarantees 1/2 moa 5 shots at 100 yards have barrels longer that a measly 20 for example; Sako TRG 42, Remington 40X, any of Don Fraley builds (Advanced Weapons Technology) etc. And if you ask me, you are getting a lot of sniper rifle for that kind of money. It certainly wont using Sierra 168 gr. It was a Leupold Gold Ring variable power scopeconsidered a benchnmark for quality, to American shooters. Item Number: 6803. Therefore DO NOT consider folding stock an advantage, but rather a hindrance to maintenance and repair its a cool gimmick. I know the theory and experiments behind short barrels. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! Width: 3.30". Those who have read my review of the 6.5 will know full how I feel about that gun. In the meantime, I decided to get another gun in case this one doesnt work out. And if you get serious about competing in precision rifle, only to find that the accuracy of the factory chrome-moly steel barrel isnt up to your standards, several shops are already cutting and installing premium barrel blanks to fit this gun. Actually there are many reasons. Web1) Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Rifle Scope. Im not saying that I did, but I did. 308 100 yard 3 group @ .625, 200 yard 5 group @ 1.3 and 300 yard 10 group (in 56 seconds) @ 2.8. is a much better option. I just think he deserves more credit for what he did to influence the industry. If you drop them at several hundred yards away, you may face murder charges at some point, when law and order are restored assuming it ever gets restored. Only mod for the new barrel was a custom cut of the barrel down to 21 3/4 from 22 to achieve the best barrel harmonics. In a survival situation, we have to look at a lot of different things, before we pull the trigger on someone, who is on our property maybe they are just lost, and pose no real threat to us.

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