William Tyrrell case: Inside the 7-year investigation. Moments before William Tyrrell's disappearance described by fatherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8Gfsc2OMITranscript of first 20 seconds of recording.I then said to (beeped out to hide identity) well where is he, where, where, wheres he gone? Secondly we could believe the usage of the word just(thats all/only) as genuine which would mean that all they did was drive round. William, his sister and mum go outside to play and explore in Nannas expansive backyard.Foster mother: I thought Id see if he wanted to climb some trees so I was holding him up and saying Do you want to climb a tree? and he was like No mummy, too high. Michael it has been confirmed that she was at her mother's house immediately before and during the time she made the call, not in the bush and not by a well. DId Zacs truck take Karlie somewhere? "As such, it is insufficient to trump the right of free expression, in connection with the accountability, in a democratic free society, of public officials and agencies in respect of the welfare of children in out-of-home-care, which is a matter of considerable legitimate public interest. Law enforcement believes Melissa and Zac's story. An instant is not minutes. So I think other daughter may be more likely what the foster mother came up with than 100% reality. AutumnIt is very strange language for sure. Photo: AAP. OT-Karlie GuseMelissa Guse Facebook Live #1 October 13, 2018 @4:30 p.m.(Breathless, gulping water) My name is Melissa Guse, um, if youre gunna to watch this video, please do not have the kids around. Also: the umpteenth reference to head -> crashing through your brain in a split secondINTERVIEWER: And what was the time between when you last saw him and when you realized he was missing? FOSTER MOTHER: Ummm.there's big, eh, glassygrassy clump of grass and I thought maybe hes hiding in that and I raced down there and I raced back up again and, and I think mum must have heard me yelling out for William because she's standing up and sh I walked back around to where we were sitting and shes standing and I just said 'Is he here?" It is worth noting that the Police were not contacted until the Fathers return. CASEY ANTHONY: She`s not far. "No other family member should ever feel the need to fight tooth and nail in order to maintain commitment to find out what happened," she said. And, um, still just not thinking, well, maybe she did smoke something that was bad. She didn't have a water bottle. The couple have since bought a four-bedroom low rise worth more than $2million. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. In February 2012, Family and Community Services came to collect William after a court had ruled that he was to go into the care of the Minister for Family and Community Services. . ] She says you guys [have] to know the details because she wants to force her story on them. I think in all this green, Ive got to see some red somewhere. So therefore both didn't get any sentence, this is normal ways for courthouses here in Europe. We heard him, we heard nothing. And then is a skipping over of time, which can indicate missing information. "I was driving to Port Macquarie Airport to collect a family member, and had this flash of [realisation that] there were two cars," she said, adding she had forgotten about them in the panic of William's disappearance. This makes me think that it is possible that the mother arranged for someone to pick up William in their car to sell him or something? William's foster mother had been supervising the pair, but when she went inside to make a cup of tea, William disappeared. Most of their language is in the negative, when we expect them to say something like I want to know where he is we instead get we have no idea where he is.The part you posted with the repeated uses of the word just is interesting. I think she's right (interestingly, she also says "to hear about abductions out here" instead of "abductions to happen out here"). Omg the poor bio MomI just watched the video. Kids smoke pot all the time. Unless William was under a car. Heres a snippet from the end of his answer, compare the edited original to my personal transcript.P: What do you think has happened to William?Original:This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmothers home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. She wanted to paint my toenails. Autumn. The coronial inquest has been delayed for another eight months with the next round of hearings happening in March 2020. Nor do I have any inkling she dressed William in girls clothes. Sometimes it gets stronger as you get older. In that case they couldnt have been out there talking.I think the grandmother backed the foster parents story. Although I am not convinced of that. She says he didn't want to because it was too high. : did her taking photos of William lead to William passing away and the family visiting his grave? Wheres Colombo when you need him eh? "She asked him that so he would go around the corner of the house and be visible to the abductor who was in a car.I have never felt so strongly in any case that the mother did sell him and she did a transaction whereby the pedo she sold him to "abducted" him out of the yard.She dressed him in the Spiderman costume so he would be recognizable and visible to the "abductor" (purchaser) of William. She's high on marijuana why would I, I just, it didn't cross my mind. She now realises that taking her to the hospital could have saved her and it is playing on her mind.There are a number of telling body language signs in the video and also I noticed at sensitive areas in her story the speed of her speech greatly increases as she wants to get through them as quickly as possible.Adrian. In early September, aleak from a NSW Police source revealed cops had zeroed in on a suspect which prompted William's foster family to issue a scathing statement downplaying the claims. If the foster parents really thought William might still be alive, wouldnt they want their identity known so that people with tips or knowledge about his whereabouts etc. The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. Parents statements connected to William and roads.These quotes are taken from the Police interview previously linked. If it was a car accident, it may have occurred before the foster father drove away that morning (supposedly for a business call and to run a few jobs). As early as 7 AM the foster mother opens the curtains and supposedly sees two suspicious cars (aged and unkempt) on the road opposite Nanna's house. I thought William disappeared in an instant. Her mention of bathroom, teeth and wash and door.I had to go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, wash my face her door was open all nightReferences to water and doors are related to sexual abuse, doors and the opening of doors are related to childhood sexual abuse. : ever) some weird way of saying Karlie is never, ever coming back? He was last seen at his foster grandmothers home in Kendall, NSW. She didn't take anything with her the people that saw her said she only had white T-shirt and gray pants and that was it. (A loud bang is heard) Then she tells us she peeked back in but wasn't sure if she saw Maddie or if it was the bedding. His head had been shaved. She obviously could have said that bike which we would expect when describing something from the past.there is just [unbridled] joy, just over his face I have marked the word unbridled as a unique word. She expands on it later in the call we heard him, around the garden and then, I thought oh I havent heard him. OT Melissa Guse I missed this on my previous post.I wanted to add one more thing I missed.and she's just there, she was just hanging out. From Mind to Matter,I had the same thought when watching the 60 minutes interview: that I can't believe they got away with it.The mother's story is riddled with inconsistencies and impossibilities.The fact they have an earnest detective slaving his life away thinking he is solving an abduction is mindboggling.Yes also it is like the Kuntz case in that multiple people know the truth. Already getting in the party mood! She shows her sensitivity to Williams racing by showing a need to minimise it in her language.Combine the minimising language regarding Williams behaviour when riding his bike with her use of the unique word unbridled and it paints a picture of a child who was wild when racing on his bike. That was not the case at all. Who knows maybe they dumped him in a predug grave, covered his tiny body up and then the next day whoever's burial the grave had actually been dug for took place, they lowered the coffin in and covered it up and that is what they might want to look at is where were there predug graves in that graveyard the day William disappeared?I bet that is where they put him. William Tyrrell's foster mum acquitted of lying William Tyrell Foster Parents Charged with Common Assault I am just trying to find this red. The child is not William Tyrrell. All the language used is negative and we have the repeated words I just see nothing. Thats ok. We were just followed by the change to I was suggests self-censoring and the use of the word Just here could represent a minimisation of actions. He was last seen at his foster grandmother's home at Kendall, on the NSW Mid North Coast, in September 2014. She then describes her mothers property and reports Weve. I prefer when it is concise and sticks to the basic principles of sa. However, this fabrication may have a lot of truth in it. When asked if she knows where he may have gone, she starts to report (again in halting, broken sentences) where they live instead. Why this need for explanation? The rule of the negativethere was no wind, there was no birds, there was no movement there was nothing.This is story telling. Inside the William Tyrrell inquest was a room divided, with the biological family on one side and the foster family on the other. It would be interesting to note where and when it ("just") crops up in her statements and if the same topics elicit the use of "just", or is it "just" random? Adrian, the stories were for information purposes only -> I don't find them believable (I had already scanned through them a few days ago). Of course I may have made a cup of tea and gone to the toilet as well but I think most people would not mention those things as they are routine everyday actions.The difficulty begins If my next door neighbour had been murdered that afternoon and the Police asked me the same question. No matter how short a time they were gone there is still a level of neglect involved and the greater the time the greater its level and effect on the parent. And then I thought, I thought, I mean theres like so many thoughts that just go crashing through your brain in a split second. and there was no answer, there was no answer.Think about the significance of the one statement.She has previously told us multiple times in various statements William was round the corner. The car, which belonged to the now-dead foster-grandmother of Tyrrell, was seized last Tuesday from Gymea in southern Sydney and taken to a secure facility. I dont recall the context unfortunately. William Tyrrell's foster parents say they have 'nothing to hide' If she has searched with others then it would be expected.Operator: OK.Foster Mother: Ah, I thought it could be five, it could be longer 'cause he was just playing around here we heard him and then we heard nothingShe has now decided on what she couldnt tell us initially, the time he was initially missing for prior to searching. She didn't want to get in the front seat so she got in the backseat behind her. The 56-year-old, who strenuously denies NSW Police allegations she was involved in the toddler's 2014 disappearance, also worked on the school's parents and citizens association. What was William Tyrrell's Foster Mother's Excuse in 2014 - YouTube The foster mother was working from home on the day before William vanished, her husband out having meetings with clients or colleagues, when they made a snap decision to get their cats boarded for the night, grab William and head up to Kendall a day early. Hit by ax? "I got back to the house, I went straight down to the command post and I told the guy on duty. In the immediate aftermath of the disappearance, as neighbours along Benaroon Drive joined in the search for William, the foster mother took her mother's Mazda down the street and along Batar Creek Road as far as the Disabled Riding School before turning back to the house. 'Life will never be the same': Families give statements at William "William was a jovial and boisterous little boy, his sense of humour and cheeky antics always made us smile," the foster father said. Karlie Lain Guse is missingstill. William Tyrrell's sister tells inquest into his disappearance she will become a detective and solve abduction mystery. The foster mother offers no social introductions during her phone call. Why? Another interesting thing in terms of location is that Karlies father (Zachary) reportedly said he found one or more footprints of her in the White Mountains. There is only one answer to the question but it is specific to the individual who answers.While it is not a direct confession to a crime it is very damaging as exposes huge deception. So the liar is vague and minimises details when necessary. William was pretending to be a lion. Also, if kidnappers wanted to quietly snatch William away why would they park two cars with blinded windows visibly and suspiciously in the middle of the street and a third one in a neighboring driveway (with the driver exchanging suspicious glances with the foster mother)? On Thursday they picked William and his sister up from daycare for the 4-hour drive to Nanna's house. My theory - end of story Adrian and Turtlebabble-I appreciate you reading over this transcript. I dont find it credible that Zachary found Karlies footprints in that vast, rugged terrain. A years-long investigation into Tyrrells disappearance which included digging up key sites in the town he was last seen in at the end of last year continues. I know there are sightings by three witnesses. Autumn pointed out the statement because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person. This early departure was a last minute decision according to the foster parents. other daughter may have been to avoid saying what was on her mind, that they were not her own children, thus other foster child came out as other daughter. Safely, if the police have revealed nothing and the child has not been missing very long, the past tense reference is very alarming. Does she mean his eyesight may not have been good enough to determine who he saw? But she later said she and the foster father had been 'incredibly fortunate to have William come into out lives'. Mum and I were sitting on two chairs and then he jumped off. And, being a mother, I wasn't going to take her to the hospital. He developed a drug habit and has been in and out of jail. At the inquest she futhermore said she thought she heard a scream. WAs the father disposing William's body at that time?A 3 year old who loves superheroes (spiderman etc) is not going to latch onto "Little Tara" and not be able to go anywhere without "Little Tara" (as the mother stated). Also: there's the word "just" again. We always enjoy watching your show every night Im writing to you now and informing you of some news my daughter Karlie Guse went on a walk this morning and nwver [sic] returned. We were just, I was out there talking with my mum and my [other daughter] soPolice Interview:P: Because you cant extinguish that love for your boy, youre caring parents - youre wondering is he okay?M: Never, never. According to Melissa, Zac was intoxicated the evening of Oct 12th and that's why she went to pick her up. Its as if she is steering the attention away from the desert. When Melissa was asked if she harmed Karlie she replied, Are you kidding me? The word think denotes uncertainty. Only in this case, obviously the cell signal was fine judging from the mother making the emergency phone call! Wherever he is, he is standing upright or she pictures he is standing upright and he is beneath groundthat is why she states that "he WOULD be 2 and 1/2 feet. This link has the foster dad's police interview, can this be analysed pleasehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1889904/Video-Moments-William-Tyrrells-disappearance-described-father.html. We are left with no information at all in her words; essentially she tells us something but gives us nothing. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has given her account of what happened the day he disappeared By crime reporter Mark Reddie Posted Fri 19 Nov 2021 at 12:18pm William's foster-mother told an inquest in 2019 that he was playing a game he called "tigers' before he disappeared. Dressing him as a girl? A quote from William Tyrell inquest:"It was [like] a scream. The parents went through a working with children check, interviews with social workers about why they wanted to foster a child, and an examination of their capacity to keep a child safe. We must also factor in what Leigh noticed which was Melissa did not commit to her words with a pronoun. But today in the witness box the foster mother said she knew straight away it was far more sinister. I want you to do something for me so I am going to say nice things about you and try to build rapport with you. The foster mother said about this photo: "I look at that picture and I just think, minutes, minutes, and our world has changed." This is what she says as she recalls William disappearance:I couldnt see him, I couldnt hear him, it was the world, you, its like, the world just came to a [screaming halt], I just, there was no wind, there was no birds, there was no movement there was nothing.Adrian. Interesting quote from Mike Pence:He said some things that are critical of my Christian faith and about me personally. William was pretending to be a lion that is why he was roaring around the garden. Award-winning mother and daughter PRs Clare and Alice Collins' Insight Communications spearheaded the 'Where's William' campaign. But dont love our lawbreakers so Im writing to you for help to share this with your viewers. Right after William had disappeared, the foster mother reportedly told one of the neighbors William had hit his head. All rights reserved. To have the car out of the picture so that it was less likely to be searched for forensic evidence?One thing I found odd was the mother saying in the 60 minutes interview (when asked when she last saw William): Playing around that patio area. She stops him from talking about it and takes over.She says and I remember saying can you see daddys car? If she is with her other daughter then I would like to know where the daughter she is not with is.Operator: OK, alright. I will post that too (its much shorter) and would like to hear your (and anyone elses) thoughts. and in her eyes when William failed to become a daughter she then saw him as "bad" or evil.The father leaving the house to get a better signal on his phone (prior to William's disappearance) is exactly like the Deorr Kuntz case where the father left the area to get a better cell signal. Its inclusion shows she has a need to convince the listener that the child was very close to her. We see obvious conflict in her statements and we also see that all records from the Police and media tell of four people (including William) at the house at the time of his disappearance. She and William's foster father have experience in real estate and property, and according to a police statement by William's late foster grandmother were assisting in the sale of the Benaroon Drive, Kendall house on the fateful trip on which the boy vanished. Indeed its as if she features in play. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmother's home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. But wouldnt the neighbors have noticed the presence of another family member(s car)? I found it clear and respectful.Autumn. She was supposed to be at a football game. Brief Life History of William. When William Anthony was born about 1495, in Kln, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, his father, Thomas Anthony, was 18 and his mother, Ursula Mueller, was 16. Peter did an article on the word just which was very interesting and I have done a lot of research on the word myself as it has a lot of meanings. She chooses these details to report all relating to his head. Hes not a kid that [would just run into something] Mentions run into something.Mother: My brothers have brought their kids up around there, [they would run those streets with absolutely no fear]. The danger seems to be that they can take things a little far and overplay things. Why not by the boys? We dont get to find out those actions as she self-censors. When someone tells you they know nothing it is their way of saying don`t ask me because I cant help you.An example would be if your car was stolen. What is she talking about. In the original video she does show some genuine emotions and remorse and I think she would have broken down and told everything to get the heavy burden off her. Maybe its a ploy. William's biological mother told media she felt like 'the worst mum in the world' after learning her three-year-old had disappeared while in the care of his foster family. What interests me in the sentence is she says I was out there talking with my mum and my [other] daughterShe feels a need to differentiate between her daughters. The foster mother described theconnection between William and his foster father as 'incredibly special'. Thank you Autumn.I will watch & tell you my impressions. The public were only a couple of years ago. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has broken down on the stand recalling the moment she thought that her son's abductor also planned to take her daughter. Is there anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything. Did he have tinted sunglasses on? On this final occasion, the birth mother said, William was 'more affectionate than usual' and 'happy sitting on my lap and giving me a cuddle'. Whatever happened, Melissa is not giving a truthful account. In that case it would still be in the wrong order though (you first walk out from the porch and then around the house). And, I just want to let everybody know (looks at phone). Their national pageis littered with posts relating to the disappearance, murder, abuse or assault of young children. 'It's bittersweet,' she told 'Where's William Tyrrell'. Will the William Tyrrell mystery finally be solved? | Woman's Day She commits with the pronoun I to racing round but does not introduce why. Then she said I drove my Corolla and Zac took the truck. (modern). Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today. Operator: OK. Operator: OK, alright. I want to have a look at it when I get time. Yes, his favorite toy was a doll but I think that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Two hours was the point where something's wrong. Previously she mentioned that [missing pronoun] got in our cars and just started driving all around. William Tyrrell was three years old when he vanished from the home of his foster grandmother on the NSW Mid North Coast on the morning of September 12, 2014. And then we were playing and I was playing, ehm, mummy monsters and hes chasing me and Im doing the whole wraah thing and, you know, Im chasing him and hes giggling his head off.Voice over: That great photo of, of William and his Spiderman suit that was taken, eh, on the deck.Foster mother: Yes, it was really weird, cause he was, he was doing wraah daddy tiger and that photo I took was, ehm, he was actually looking up at me and Ive sort of crouched down in a really weird position and taken the photo and, ehm, it was mid-roar thats why his mouth was wide open. He was deceptive due to substance abuse, passed out on the couch, while the child was able to let herself out of the house. Operator: OK. Would he have had any shoes on do you know? Wasnt she supposed to be inside? She then states that after she got ready for bed with all of those activities that are sensitive to sexual and domestic abuse, And, so we ended up back in the living room with her brothers for a little bit. Because at the time of William's disappearance it was visible. No. And there was no answer, there was no answer.So the mother by her language suggests the father is arriving home (pulling up the drive or vehicle can be heard) as that would be the logical reason for her to say to William (who is round the corner out of sight allegedly) can you see daddys car? She tells us that there was no answer from William which indicates this would be the exact time she discovered him missing.Thats means that it took the father who we believe was pulling up in his car 5 minutes to get from his car to see his wife who tells him William has been missing for five minutes. The use of the words die and dead are very concerning-I had wondered about leakage too. June 5 - The latest search ends with Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin saying the case could soon go to a coroner. He has already pleaded not guilty to the charges. Some children do go missing where the parent or caretaker who is making the emergency call indicate guilt due to neglect or failure to protect, rather than criminal guilt. One of the three photos is of William in the Spiderman outfit on Nannas patio (so we know exactly how long Williams hair was that day). I think that she couldve been abducted or taken because we do live by a highway, and, it happens and Im bein realAutumn, From Casey Anthony jailhouse tapes (I'm not sure she ever said anything about woods, but she said she could feel Caylee was not far -> she was found in a wooded area less than a mile from the Anthony house):CINDY ANTHONY: But do you think after this long she`d still be local? You lot need your tin foil hats replacing, the craziness is leaking into your brains..If you put as much effort into really looking for William, rather than blaming the wrong people, he might have been found by now..Absolutely astonishing, armchair detectives at their worse! "It was a traumatic experience for both. William Tyrrell's foster mum found not guilty of lying to NSW crime Get the monthly weather forecast for Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, including daily high/low, historical averages, to help you plan ahead. EXCLUSIVE Home win! Adrian, I would expect to see at least some guilt from the foster parents regardless of what happened to William. She was by herself. This juxtaposition may indeed have caused her to say "my other daughter", like Hey Jude wrote. Why else would she say but hes older? What circumstances envelop the missing person? Any vehicles?Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I know not that I'm aware of. I just want to help find her. It all seems a bit over the top. Should Buttigieg "know better" than to criticize Pence, or else? You can go to prison and physically serve time for a crime, and it be deemed you have paid your dues to society upon release. Adrian. 'Kind of strange that the fact that authorities had been "flying over" gave the stepmother the urge to say "I have to do something". "He will be the kid in the Spiderman outfit" is what she told him.That's why she said "Do you see Daddy's car? And then we went back to bed and I spent the whole night with her. Looking at either the first or second use of the word we end up with the same outcome which is deceptive language.A clever criminal may commit a crime and then drive round in order to be witnessed by others so as to appear they were looking/searching for a missing person.

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